Does God exist?
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Date: 22 July 2012 14:46
Subject: //Dil Se Desi// Does God exist?
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My fav author KS
writes in Hindustan Times…
“Once again, some philosophers and theologians have
revived their believe in the existence of God.
They use different names for Him, Her or It. God can be Brahma, the Creator. Godcan be
Allah, Rabb, Jesus, Parmeshwar and Waheguru.
In any event, whatever name you give Him, He is regarded as the Creator
of Life. If you ask believers that, if
God created life, then who created Him, they have no answer. The truth is that life on earth was not
created. It evolved, as did every living
creature. It was not created by any
person by whatever name you choose to call Him or Her. There was no Creator. It is not God who created us, we created God.
(Me: I wholeheartedly agree. The Jainism was given birth to in 3rdor 2nd
Century BC, Buddhism in the 2nd, Hinduism followed soon, Christianity in the
1st Century AD and Islam in the 6th. Human beings existed at least since the
Stone Age, thousands of years before any of the religious came into being, not
to be speak of the lesser forms of life.
Most of the violent strife, killings and terrorism on
earth owe their origins to the interpretation of the religious tenets by their
followers. So, the religions, far from
guiding their followers in the path of righteousness and peaceful co-existence
within and without their faithful, actually lead the followers to take the law
into their hands and enforce their own interpretation on others. Since the canons are subject to so grotesque
interpretation and enforcement, does it not therefore follow that all religions
are bad? If God did exist, why did He
not restrain His adherents from taking to violence, make them clearly understand
the true meaning of the canons and how to orderly conduct themselves?. Furthermore, none the religious edicts were written
by Him)
MY COMMENTS
Everyone has the liberty
to own or disown assets or God or any relations. Freedom of life. Sorry I
wrongly stated it--it is FREEDOM OF "I". Because, "LIFE" definition
claim is still pending. Freedom with "I" is certain, but as one
accuses that there is no god because theologian is yet to prove it, since
giving life has not yet been found by science, till the mystery is cracked, Let
the opposite team stay as NEGATORS have also not proved the non-existence, so can’t
escape the onerous job, by escapism , by shifting the onus. Here onus lie on
both shoulders and as Robert Frost said "long way to go before so many
generations sleep, since man knows only 4% of the universe (after 2000 yrs? I
stretch) so for that with lot of doubts.
People (there is a book 50
reasons to prove no god -written by western author-which is as vague as this)
may say they can create replicas of lfe so they had found life. But is it so?
It is as good as telling that adding rice to hot water and boiling I have
created sadam-food; did he create the rice down run to source of life in rice?
No. Science had just DISCOVERED Not CREATED. Discover is uncovering the lid to
see inside that is it. Mystery of Brain is not understood for 97%. Life is what,
unknown. When in baby it arrives? No one knows. When does it leave? We call it
as Linga shareera, and air is by product cause. But you also have not established
by yourself for creation as creator. So aviveka or ignorance is on both sides,
but we have done certain base but have you?
Rig Veda said that
"who knows ,it was there'. What would you have said about you parents or
mother on the date of seeing the world about their or her existence if could u
talk? "WHO KNOWS, THEY WERE THERE! ?. IGNORANCE REMOVER IS RELIGION and
each shall find for himself if you have interest as your hunger appeasement is
your outlook. Only mother can it for kid as long as its in the womb--see it is
IT before and after and what is making IT as HE OR SHE OR THEY OR YOU OR I OR
INDEX IS LIFE AND NO-LIFE is not yet discovered and therefore HE or SHE or SOME
CAPITAL exist as GOD.
You want us to prove so that
you will change side; WE WANT YOU TO DISPROVE SO THAT WE MAY CHANGE SIDE;
right? ONUS OF PROOF LIE ON ONE WHO DENIES THE LAW.
Rishi Kapila son of and
descended from Kasyapa and Athri, said "purusha'" existed; but laid a
theory that it is prakrithi (nature) started the creation. .
( Incidentally Buddha followed Kapila )
( Adi Sankarar also to certain extent as for as MAYA ). Because matter was there when he was born he laid a theory
of creation. Even then he knew and demanded a truth that ENERGY (later termed
as SHAKTHI as supreme viz SHE instead HE), to become kinetic, there shall exist
POTENTIAL AND PUSH (which science said as BIG BANG and we said as OHM PRANAVAM)
which is GOD. Kapila deduced this and for creation adopted nature, and THIS WAS
ALSO MANMADE BUT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED IT OR SWALLOWED IT like a fish. However when
we swallowed something you question us. HOW CAN YOU FIGHT WITH ONE SIDE OF THE
COIN THE OTHERSIDE? Is it fair and it not fallacy?
India had given only
corruption and negation as rewards for people; is it a right statement? But you
say so; India does not but it is rulers, politicians, u & me, yet you never
say so but attribute as INDIA. So also for the malaise created by the
individuals you blame God. Is it right? When your mother slaps you for the
mistake of your brother committed and shifted the focus as if you, you agitate;
but you accuse with your fore finger the AWARENESS as God, WHILE you forget to
notice that three other fingers are pointing out at you only.
WE CALL IT AS MAYA; WE CALL IT AS KARMA; WE
EXPLAIN IT; YOU SAY IT IS MAN MADE; BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT; I HAVE NOT
SEEN WHAT DARWIN DID TO SAY SOMETHING; BUT BY READING SCIENCE BOOK I SWALLOW
IT; I BELIEVE THERE IS PROOF AS GIVEN THERE; I AM WILLING TO BELIEVE; OOPS,
DARWIN THEORY IS ALTERED AND CHALLENGED AND CHANGED; AGAIN I BEKIEVE IT FROM
THE BOOK AND AS GIVEN AS PROOF; THEN WHAT HAPPENNED TO MY PRIOR BELIEF?; WAS IT
WRONG,THEN? OH SOME ONE CREATED A VIOLATION, YET I DONT BLAME THE PAST? I DONT
SAY MAN MADE; I SAY "WE WILL CORRECT OURSELVES IF WE GO WRONG"; SUPER----
COINING OF WORDS --JUGGLERY.
May
be the order of religion placed in unintentional; there is no denial of the
fact that there is no "HINDUISM" (A COINED WORD OF BRITISH), but
SANATHANA DHARMA whose age accepted ultimately 7000 to 10000 years; and hence
it can’t be Jainism, Buddhism and Hinduism etc.
Finally denial is our
freedom. We don’t deny the drunken father; we don’t a PRO mother we don’t our inefficiency; we don’t
deny" what we don’t know" totally; we don’t deny " our
ignorance'; we deny what we don’t want to do or can’t do; we deny as fluke when
someone does; that is MIND we have, an "abstract", but we use and
misuse it in words and deeds, casually.
BUT WE TALK TALL ABOUT WHAT WE DONT KNOW VIZ GOD, because we are we.
Thank you Brothers. K Raja ram IRS
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